Both, now residents of Berlin, care for printed matter and a lot of things that come with it. You think it is boring to talk about pencils? Wait until you hear John bring in stories about John Steinbeck, Napoleon and Freud.
And after the pencils are sharpened, the conversation takes us to the zine. Who, why, why not, where, what and what else. Digital versus analogue. The tactile and the deletable world, the sense of freedom, the punk era, Boston hardcore protestants and Mexican poets.
The inkwell doesn’t dry up.
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